Our pal Pen Pop is on the scene:
Hey, not sure of the details except that the bike and a backpack were under the wheels of a muni. Looks like the bus was turning off Harrison into the depot. I don’t know the condition of the cyclist but the police aren’t letting the bus move. Now there are about thirteen buses (combined both sides) waiting to go in. Watch out for buses, watch out for stop signs.
Oh geez, I hope nobody was hurt.
I saw this riding home. It didn’t look good for the cyclist, but I still have hope s/he is OK. Very sad.
I saw it too. We must have been by around the same time. At 7:15pm the busses were backed up to Division. There were 2 ambulances on the scene. I can’t figure out how it happened as I remember the bike being under the front axle of the articulated bus. Maybe the driver didn’t look or the cyclist whipped around the corner from 15th? It’s not as if those sixty foot buses pull into the garage at great speeds.
Regardless, I’m praying we don’t see a ghost bike there.
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I seent it
I am very sorry it escalated to this and hope the cyclist is ok.
I ride through here every night on my way home. Some Muni drivers can be very competitive out of the previous stop sign heading south and will overtake and cut off a cyclist to turn right into the barn.
I’ve had to brake hard more than a few times to keep from getting hit by the second carriage of one of the extended busses.
This is a main thoroughfare for cycles, Muni needs to let their drivers know how dangerous this behavior is.
I’m a cyclist and I understand that it’s bike drag, but MUNI buses turning into their depot get priority because A. they’re freaking huge and predictable, and B. its Bus Depot.
I hope this person didn’t die.
I HOPE THE NEXT TIME A MUNI BUS ILLEGALLY TURNS IT IS IN FRONT OF YOUR SORRY NOPING ASS.
“I’m a cyclist” is starting to equate to the “I have a black friend, so I’m not racist” disclaimer. Law clearly states that drivers must yield to cyclists in a bike lane when crossing a bike lane to turn. As professional drivers it should be expected by all involved (auto drivers, pedestrians, cyclists & Muni drivers) that MUNI operators will obey traffic law.
Size of the bus and location are irrelevant. If you do actually regularly bike in this city your perspective will change the first time you hear a MUNI bus wind up full throttle to drive up next to you only to cut you off or run you over with the articulating portion to make a turn.
Toss off auto apologist douche.
Huh? Somebody say my name?
I RIDE BIKES ALL OF THE TIME WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY ABOUT THAT
I generally yield to larger vehicles no matter what the law says. Otherwise you are putting your life in the hands of someone else, which seems counter intuitive.
yes to this. why challenge a bus? I’m looking out for my own life thank you very much.
The law also clearly states that all vehicles receive priority over bicycles when turning (I.E all vehicles must turn into the bike lane 200 feet before the stop sign when making a right hand turn)
The Bus Depot would definitely qualify, so the bicyclist must yield to the bus. Sorry if it ruins your sweet momentum, bro.
Please head to the DMV and turn in your license.
Vehicles must *merge* into the bike lane prior to making a turn. Merging means “changing lanes”. If you change lanes and hit something, you are at fault, period.
Many large vehicles (and a MUNI bus is one such vehicle) can’t physically merge into the right lane to make a right turn.
Riding Harrison straight all the way from soma I’ve been cut off a ton of times by a Muni bus gunning it and then slamming on the brakes to turn into the depot. The cyclist behind me on Monday night almost got taken out this way, with lights on and everything
the cops working the scene were kinda dicks.
WELCOME TO SF
yeah, they were kinda dicks…..you know asking us to f*ckin stop at the stop sign as you ran it.
I hope that the cyclist had plenty of lights and reflectors on. I know that’s what motorcycles and cars use to make sure they are seen.
troll
WHAT DO PEDESTRIANS USE TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE SEEN? WHAT ABOUT CHAIR WHEELED FOLK? SEEMS LIKE YOUR LOGIC AIN’T ALL THAT
No, actaully not a troll. Just a person who is very scared when ever I almost hit a cyclist who runs a stop sign on harrison at night. Why am I afraid of that? because invariably they are wearing all black and have no lights or reflectors.
imagine if a car were driving without lights or reflectors and ran stop signs? pretty scary.
IMAGINE IF BIKES WERE GAS POWERED 3,500 POUND VEHICLES THAT COULD 0-60 IN 6 SECONDS AND OVER 100MPH! IMAGINE!
Sounds pretty rad – I’d ride one of those too.
Holy shit, I would ride the fuck out of one of those!
Sorry Lady, that happens sometimes because not all of us WANT TO BE SEEN. I realize it’s against the LAW. I personally AVOID all vehicles – you’ll never see me – can’t say that for a lot of the kooks on bikes out there at night riding like dicks. F them.
That biker was me:) I am surprisingly (and amazingly) okay! I have a lot of scrapes and bruises but that is all. I was so incredibly lucky! I not only stopped at the stop sign, I also had front and back lights and a bright blue backpack with reflecting strips on it. It was definitely dark and the bus driver just didn’t look at all and I had no idea that he was going to turn right there as he didn’t have a turn signal on and I’m not familiar with that bus depot. I am an incredibly careful biker but sometimes things just happen. Bikers be super careful around muni buses!
Wow, that’s scary! Glad you’re OK.
I am relieved to learn that you are okay.
I sometimes avoid riding along bus routes after a cyclist was hit and killed on one that I used to use.
Glad you’re OK! MUNI drivers are not so OK. Beware!
I can tell you there are lot of cyclist irresponsible and foolish out there. I hope this was one of them.
And people still like to pretend motorists like Driver here aren’t intentionally violent, vengeful jerks. I hope you get cancer.
Allan, the cyclist is OK and commented above under the name EZ. Why don’t you update your post, so that asshats like Driver here might at least have his curiosity satisfied enough not to blurt out an inane, pointlessly mean-spirited, grammatically challenged comment ?
Also, your pal Pen Pop is very kind to warn us to ‘watch out for buses [and] stop signs,’ so very kind. Oh wait, but of course it was the driver’s fault and it sounds like EZ couldn’t have done much else to prevent the crash. Unsafe bike lanes FTW, once again. Quit blaming the victims.
Here is the thing, Large vehicles CAN NOT merge into the bike lane to take a right turn. They are required to signal, but in order for them to clear the curb they need to take the turn from further left than merging into the bike lane (or often the right hand travel lane). Many trucks have a “Wide Right Turn” sign on the right side of the rear door to make this clear to other users of the road.
Again they are required to signal and if you see the right signal you should not try to go to the right of them. Sadly the signal is often automatically canceled if they turn their steering wheel left (even just a little) before beginning their turn, because they often need a bit more room to navigate the wide turn. And Yes far too ofter people forget to signal. So again your best bet when approaching a truck or bus is to pass carefully aware of what is around you in the road, because the best person to insure your safety is YOU.
Let me add that City may want to literally get rid of the bike lane there for the safety of cyclists. Or at the very least a very bright sign like this http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2365/2230930976_ba6229e814_z.jpg?zz=1
With all of the careless SF cyclists running red lights, and ignoring traffic laws this was bound to happen.
Way to blame the victim, there, sparky.
Cyclist fault for running the stop sign…..she ran the stop sign and slammed into the the side of the bus…..the bus didn’t hit her. So yeah, it is her fault…..and she it so blame.
Are you sure that is what happened? *IF* that was what happened, then, sure, yeah, that would be the cyclist’s fault. *BUT*, according to the only witness we’ve heard from, that is NOT what happened. Re: “I not only stopped at the stop sign, I also had front and back lights and a bright blue backpack with reflecting strips on it.”