Growing up with gangs in the Mission

Youth Outlook TV interviewed a couple of young Latin American Mission natives about growing up in gangs, recent gang injunctions, and something that rhymes with “smentrification”.

29 Responses to “Growing up with gangs in the Mission”

  1. kusfwtf says:

    So sick of these gang injunctions keeping gangs out so “rich” white people can move in with their “jobs n’ shit.” I hate when the man tries to crack down on gang violence. Just another way for uptighty whities to keep homicide numbers down. Makes me sick, yo! Also sick of chicken drumsticks with hoop earrings (5 minutes into video.)

  2. The Problem with Larry says:

    I’m listening to my Lady Gaga songs and walking away from you now.

  3. Arty says:

    You should have posted that why i ride low and slow video instead of this. It’s got a way better soundtrack and a way more interesting story about missions history. Oh and I say that in the most least pretentious way possible.

  4. Rob says:

    I get that the kid is young and stuff.. but who cares what blocks he grew up on. If you don’t add something positive to the community, it isn’t yours. None of this “gentrification” has anything to do with race. Im super fucking sick of people saying that it does or implying that white people moving into a neighborhood is somehow killing the Mission…

    It’s simple, pay your bills, don’t stab people, and keep making banging food. You can stay as long as you like.

  5. Chris says:

    Gee, with the attitudes seen here, it’s easy to see why the welcome mat’s not rolled out for the gentrifiers.

  6. T.C. says:

    Unbelievable. If this guy spent as much time looking for a job (or at work) as he spends “kickin’ it, chillin’ and hangin’” he wouldn’t be involved in all this gang nonsense. MOST people in the Mission want jobs, safe neighborhoods and clean safe streets. A very small number of people want to ruin what good, hardworking people are trying to do here.

    Personally, I think the future of the Mission’s “flavor” is secure, if you don’t believe me, see what comes out of John O’Connell High School when it lets out.

    Omar, you did some (a lot of) bad shit, you finally got caught and slapped on the wrist. Because of YOUR actions you have to live in Daly City. Again, YOUR gang lifestyle led you to Daly City.

  7. T.C. says:

    This will help those of you that think the Mission is getting too “white ‘n’ shit”-

    http://imgwww5.schooldigger.com/temp/dnc-688782378.png

  8. pedro says:

    Interesting film. If you take a look at the Yo! Youth Outlook site you’ll notice that much of their attention is focused on creating positive messages for youth. The film itself only shows the problems that exist in a city with the largest academic gap – it’s tragic, a lack of positive community role models for youth, injunctions, and higher rent rates that displaces families from access to upward mobility – all the “good” jobs that are accessible via BART. If we fully funded education, protected immigrant families from separation, supported local voices, and had a reliable transit system, then we allow for struggling communities to flourish.

    History has a habit of repeating itself, maybe in different ways, and even within the same city:
    http://blog.independent.org/2008/07/21/how-“urban-renewal”-destroyed-san-francisco’s-fillmore-district/

  9. Kristy says:

    Excellent point Pedro, I couldn’t agree more. The attitudes expressed by other commentators is exactly what has become so troubling about the mission –> entitled transplants move in ready to soak up the unique culture of a working class, diverse neighborhood. This leads to rent increases, evictions, and inconvenient, forced migration of local low-income families to more affordable locales. In addition to how much it sucks for those whose homes are torn apart by forces beyond their control…it also reveals how much more the police and local politicians care to get involved when white, middle class folks become interested in moving into the neighborhood. Sad for those of us who hold dear the Mission we grew up in. What was once a strong community of tight-knit families, is now a superficial, elitist vomit-fest of the most extreme (and tacky) consumer interests (which for many of us have come to represent both ignorance and arrogance). I hope you all think of the community you helped destroy as you enjoy your bacon doughnut and/or your artisanal fair trade coffee.

  10. Kristy says:

    It seems wildly apparent to me Pedro that (excluding the comment regarding O’Cornell high school) none of these people really care about the state of public education in their neighborhood as it likely doesn’t pertain to them in any personal way.

    I didn’t mean to suggest that outsiders shouldn’t move to San Francisco, or even the Mission. I am simply suggesting that people should consider how where they move affects those around them. And if they don’t, that’s a perfectly fair choice, no matter how ignorant or entitled it makes them appear. It’s a similar concept to socially conscious tourism.

    • “I didn’t mean to suggest that outsiders shouldn’t move to San Francisco, or even the Mission”

      –too bad that that is what you did say.

      After that, it just turns into more discredited New College of California propaganda. Too bad for you that no one has to obey your stupid red fascist dictates. We can live where we chose, and live as we chose. FUCK your “socially conscious” made-up rules.

      • pedro says:

        wow. you are really cranky.

      • Happy Old Mission Guy says:

        Cranky, that’s not what Kristy said at all. She stated her perspective on the affects of change in her neighborhood.

        Why so personally hateful towards Kristy? What’s your fucking problem, guy?

        And what is the New College comment supposed to mean?

        What kind of fucking wingnut are you?

        • OK, maybe I took the implications of her comments too far. Maybe she wasn’t really suggesting that I (and most of the people who currently live here) shouldn’t have moved here. I can accept that.

          But what she did, unquestionably, say was that those of us who moved here looking for something better than where we came from ruined it for her and the people she identifies with. If you don’t believe me, read it again:

          “[...]entitled transplants move in ready to soak up the unique culture of a working class, diverse neighborhood. This leads to rent increases, evictions, and inconvenient, forced migration of local low-income families to more affordable locales. In addition to how much it sucks for those whose homes are torn apart by forces beyond their control[…]”

          And then there’s this:

          “Sad for those of us who hold dear the Mission we grew up in. What was once a strong community of tight-knit families, is now a superficial, elitist vomit-fest of the most extreme (and tacky) consumer interests (which for many of us have come to represent both ignorance and arrogance). I hope you all think of the community you helped destroy as you enjoy your bacon doughnut and/or your artisanal fair trade coffee.”

          Really? I’m supposed to reflect on the community that I helped destroy by moving here, regardless of the probability that I moved here before Kristy was even born? Regardless, there’s so much hateful caricature and bullshit in Kristy’s comments that I’m surprised that anyone would be surprised by my violent reaction to it. I don’t care how much San Francisco history she has learned; she clearly has learned nothing about understanding people who do not share her bias.

          PS: What kind of wingnut am I? The kind who voted for Obama in the last presidential election, and is considerably disappointed by his weakness on transparency and gay rights and Gitmo and other issues. Might have to take another look at Ron Fucking Paul, for heaven’s sake!

          • OK, probably just kidding about that last bit. Love Paul’s positions on personal liberty issues, though — like there’s any chance of him having his way, even if he was elected!

          • pedro says:

            If enough people who moved into the mission cared about the well being and quality of education for the youth in the Mission, then that’s a step forward. With that, I’m OK with the free movement of people, but with that an important factor is not disrupt or “make room” – “gentrification” is a complicated issue, and there well intentioned ideas that fall into a grey area of “is this right?”. That’s what happens when the bottom strata are left to pick up the scraps of development.

            Personally, I feel like a society is best represented by it’s least well off people. If we just took a little more time to apply that attitude towards the mission, then we all rise as a neighborhood.

    • SCUM says:

      Where did you come from Kristy?

      • Kristy says:

        S.F. I grew up going to public school in the Mission where I did learn about the history of the Mission, as well as the other neighborhoods in SF. I went to school in the Richmond and PH too, where the same was true. Because the whole melting-pot thing has historically been a very big reality for SF youth (though this may be changing), discourse on these topics has been and still is common in relation to education about culture, language, and tolerance. I had an elderly history teacher who was born and raised in the mission and he was probably the most passionate SF quasi-historian I’ve ever met.

        So really elementary through high school consistently covered SF history, particularly past and present social and political climate.

        I would guess this is true where you come from too.

        I’ve had many conversations with people online on this topic (from yelp to sfgate, etc), and I notice that a natives’ knowledge of SF history is often questioned when the superficiality and hypocrisy of the current consumer-driven scene in the Mission is pointed out. I have to laugh everytime.

        • SCUM says:

          We moved here in 1972 when I was 9 and lived by the Doggie Diner near the zoo before moving to 27th and California. I was a product of busing to integrate the school system and went to Anza elementary on Anza and Masonic behind the old Sears building. I have lived my adult life everywhere from Glen Park to Orizaba and Sargent(gun shots nightly)to my current place on 17th and South VanNess for the last 10 years. I have always loved this town to the point that I have San Francisco tattooed across my back and I still hang with people that I have known since I moved to The Richmond.

          • Nipsaaaay Rustle says:

            It’s good to get away from SF for a while too, to get some perspective. I can see how you might get bitter and insulated otherwise. I’ve got 25 years here off and on and I’m bailing soon (chorus of applause). I won’t end up a cranky old lifer here. Let the kids coming up have their day.