Dolores Park Works got a letter from the SFMTA indicating that STOP signs on 19th and Dolores are inappropriate:
“STOP signs are primarily used to define right-of-way where it may be unclear. This intersection is presently controlled by a STOP sign on 19th [on Cumberland], thus vehicles on this street must stop and yield…installation of an all-way STOP could also lead to incomplete stops and increase potential for rear-end and collisions.”
So STOP signs are inappropriate because there is already a STOP sign on 19th and Cumberland, two streets that are actually parallel. Is this an elaborate math problem in which we are to assume Dolores Park exists in a non-Euclidean space?
Furthermore, STOP signs aren’t appropriate because the assumption is that cars generally don’t stop at them and the ones that do will get into rear-end accidents. Things really must have really gone downhill since I took my written drivers license exam when I was 15 and a half. I guess it’s time I got a new DMV handbook.
Get the full scoop at DPW.
Is STOP an acronym now? Why the shouty letters?
I think Wikipedia’s current first-line definition is a lot more accurate than “primarily used to define right-of-way” –
“A stop sign is a graphic traffic sign signal, erected at road junctions, to instruct one to be still and not proceed until the path is clear.”
Dolores is the main street here; 19th and Cumberland are side streets and already have stop signs. There’s no need for an all-way stop.
Unless the cars on Dolores make a habit of not stopping for pedestrians who have the right-of-way to cross the street at 19th.
that’s a different crime entirely…
That’s ridiculous. “Yield” signs define right of way, not Stop signs.
Maybe they could at least put in the those “blinkey” cross walks like they have on 25th St. in San Mateo (and probably a ton of other places I’m not familiar with). TBH, I’ve never found a blinkey cross walk in SF. Clement street would be nice as well.
An entire generation raised without ever hearing the word “no.” Its what makes you great, but it also makes you crybabies.
Aw damn grandpa, did you forget your meds again?
if non-euclidean geometry is involved, then we know that the planning department has been taken over cthulu.
Seen cars honk at pegs in the crosswalks and blow thru
If you really want to blow drivers’ minds, install a flashing yellow light.