Curbed SF is better at journalism than us.
Normally I’d comment about how this Jenga stack doesn’t fit the vibe of the neighborhood (or the entire city, for that matter), but I believe “lame lame lame” will suffice:
, but I believe “lame lame lame” will suffice:</p>
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33 Responses to “Update: Designs of the New Development at 17th and Mission”
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oh god no
is this a fugliest building contest?
Juxtapose these images with that of the previous post on York St. Priceless.
now this is something worth fighting against. Where is Chicken John now?
Well if the AA saga is any indication of what is to come, there are going to be a lot of broken windows.
Like the dollar store currently on the site is all that? Get over yourselves.
Are you seriously trying to say that building will look better? Get over YOURself, Drew.
Reminds me (a little) of the New Museum in the Bowery, Manhattan, another urban enclave:
http://www.newmuseum.org/
Get over yourselves people. Mission St. is gross and desperately needs a revamp. I hate people who hold onto the past when the past is ugly and falling apart and a blight on this great city. Throw that old, ragged blanket away that’s moldy and smells like ass and doesn’t keep you warm anyway and get a new fucking blanket.
Agreed! Progress is good, why should Mission street stay in shambles when much of the hood is progressing in a good direction. Just look at Dolores park, it used to be infested with drugs and filth too. You can always move to the TL, if you miss that vibe. Of corse it’s just a matter of time until the TL gets all bougie too.
I don’t think people take issue with the new blanket. It’s more what that new blanket looks like. This looks like it came from a sucky future where everyone lives in air conditioning ducts. To compare this to that New Museum is to shame the New Museum which looks totally baller.
To summarize: Dollar store sucks, so does this, come with a better blanket developers.
Thanks Jocelyne for impressing some forward thinking into this discussion. Lapidgeon, if you think the design is ugly, I will certainly entertain that argument. Are you against the residential development as a thing or against the looks of the proposed building?
I’m against the looks of the building. I’m all for residential development, especially infill stuff like this, which is part of why I hate the building. It looks needlessly expensive and as such likely won’t support many of the people who need the housing the most.
This thing looks like someone went to IKEA to buy a building or something.
VETO
It does not seem to “fit in” but isn’t it still a great deal better than what is there now? I do shop at the $ store a lot. Is that going to be in the new commercial space?
This is where that drug bust happened in June, right? http://sfist.com/2009/06/03/scenes_from_a_dope_bust.php Will this clean up the corner or make (more) deals go east to Capp Street?
Density is good. and yes this won’t stop drug use / buying/ selling, it will only move it, but real estate is not supposed to solve social ills, we are.
LOL, in the rendering they have a lawn and shoppers sitting in the driveway.
If developers wonder why people oppose their projects, they might try addressing the dishonesty in all their renderings.
The design seems to fit better at First and Mission than 17th & Mission.
WAAA WAAA WAAA, what about the neighborhood character?!?!?!?!? I know, let’s make the developer put some bay windows on it!!! That’s progressive!!!!
I am opposed to this building because it is simply yet another step toward making the Mission unaffordable. White “people” will be the only people “living” there. Actually I guess they’ll be consuming there. Mission Street will become white and safe and boring, just like Valencia Street. If the people who opposed AA don’t oppose this, they are hypocrites. The point is to keep the neighborhood affordable and diverse.
I’m not for preserving the dollar store, but there’s got to be a happy medium between an old run-down one level building and an overdesigned mini-skyscraper. Seriously, it’s way too big for that lot, and does it really need to be that tall??? I have lived across the street for nearly 20 years, and this will do nothing to improve the neighborhood, which i’ll admit needs to be improved, but not with this. This building will only end up a sad and not very thought out eyesore. I’ll take the dollar store anyday!
This building doesn’t respond to the site at all, a requirement of good architecture in my opinion. I love new development on Mission St. but not if you pluck a building out of any city and from any street and dump it into the center of neighborhood with a distinct character. It shows no respect for the existing environment that, whatever the crime and filth on the street, has history, culture, and spirit.
Honor the Mission. Don’t dismiss it by imposing this soul-less glass box.
The building doesn’t look like it’s made to hold families. Don’t we have enough empty yuppie cubes in SF already? Do we need more?
That design is mad ghastly. The Dollar Store, while the very business model is always living on borrowed time, has some interesting oddities, worth actually venturing inside, gabachos.
ah! hate it!
There is no way that this specific building will ever be built. So stop your whining.
Isore–
Buena idea pochazote, a mi vieja le encanta ese lugar pero siempre que compramos popotes o lo que sea quedo con la duda de que pudieran estar hechos con plastico chino lleno de plomo y quien sabe que mas — mejor que respetemos las costumbres latinas y que los duenos del terreno hagan lo que se les hinche el huevo.
I LOVE this. I am a San Francisco native and am so tired of faux victorians and edwardians. This is the 21st century and think there are places in an urban environment to shake things up. I Love that Museum in the Bowery as well as the Modern Synagogue out in the Richmond District.
Sure beats cookie cutter slap lofts or that ugly new condo building over the new grocery store on Mission at 18th. Yes it’s great to have a store but the design is horrible.
Hey Mike
This is not about White people or latin people or black people. Neighborhoods evolve.The Mission has a mix for the first time ever. I grew up here when the Mission was an Irish neighborhood. Way back the Fillmore was Jewish, the Marina was retired old widows, the Embarcadero was longshormen, Potrero Hill was Russian. Things change.
Concerned Guajolote-
True, true…Chale, I don’t buy the Chinese crap ANYWHERE I go if at all possible. There are actually quite a few Malay and Eastern EU items there as well. If it’s going in my familias body, I am quite careful.
Mazzy – interesting you should note the new synagogue in the Richmond because it’s by the same architect, and faced many of the same complaints. (It also looked all bright & shiny like this in the renderings but turned out somewhat less so.)
Why are people in SF so flipping conservative about contemporary architecture?
Stanley Saitowitz Natoma have a number of interesting built projects- check out 1234 Howard Street before you blast.
It does not need to be traditional, but seven stories seem a bit much.